Sword/Shield Opinions on every Pokemon not being Included

[Felly]

It's not something that really bothers me a whole lot. This just seems like an opportunity for people to get attached to new Pokemon. It's a little bit of a bummer that I won't be able to catch some of my favorites if they're not in the games, but I feel like there's going to be something in the games that I'll like. This at least makes it a little easier for me to catch them all instead of having to catch 800+ Pokemon. I'll still buy the games though; not having a National Pokedex wouldn't be a breaking point for me to not buy them.

 

[HungryPiplup]

) Masuda said that all the new Pokemon (including forms) will take the total number of Pokemon to over 1000. We're currently at 809, I believe. Meaning that the Pokemon introduced in this region may well be over 200 new Pokemon. Now, I don't know how many Pokemon they're cutting from Gen Sw/Sh, but I would much rather they spend time working on up to 200 brand new, well-designed beasties for a fresh region than filling it with 809 existing Pokemon, oh and some new ones I guess

I can live with Pokemon’s decision just for that fact. I am really tired of them making so few Pokémon for the past 2 generations, so I’ll take the no national Dex for more new Pokémon.

 

[Kyogre386]

I'm of the opposite mind. I think the solution should have been to stop making new Pokemon and instead just make new regions. If I were to pick a cutoff point, I would pick Gen IV. Arceus is as good a stopping point as any. Mind you, now that they've made them there are a lot I really like and would not want to go away, but if they hadn't made them in the first place I wouldn't know what I was missing and I think it would have been better that way. But that ship has long since sailed. Still, Gen VII wouldn't have been a terrible cutoff point.

 

[Dragonite]

Pretty sure I won't be changing anybody's minds now matter how big a wall of text I write, so

1. Content isn't created for free. Sure, TCPI has more money than god and probably could just Throw Money At the Problem if they wanted to. But they also don't actually want to just flush all that money down the toilet. I'm sure swsh are already going to be retailing at $60, does anyone want to pay even more than $60 for a Pokémon game?

By the way, Sun / Moon sold in the ballpark of 16 million units. I'd be hard pressed to believe that everyone who is mad enough to boycott Pokémon for life over this would even come close to 1% of that. The angriest voices are always way in the minority, always.

2. The question was never "if" there would be too many Pokémon to put in one game, but "when." It was always "when." And I don't know why I was initially surprised that the Internet was upset about the fact that the day had come.

3. The people who say "just recycle the 3DS game assets!" are kidding themselves.

4. It's a friggin' video game. Nobody's going to die.

5. Video games are an industry.

6. You can be unhappy that your favorites aren't getting in or whatever but this is just another weekly reminder that the gaming community seriously needs to go out and play in the sunshine for a while.

tl;dr the whole thing is stupid and I can't wait for Ubisoft to announce a new game or something so the hate mob leaves my Twitter feed.

 

[Grunt Beavie]

Pretty sure I won't be changing anybody's minds now matter how big a wall of text I write, so

1. Content isn't created for free. Sure, TCPI has more money than god and probably could just Throw Money At the Problem if they wanted to. But they also don't actually want to just flush all that money down the toilet. I'm sure swsh are already going to be retailing at $60, does anyone want to pay even more than $60 for a Pokémon game?

By the way, Sun / Moon sold in the ballpark of 16 million units. I'd be hard pressed to believe that everyone who is mad enough to boycott Pokémon for life over this would even come close to 1% of that. The angriest voices are always way in the minority, always.

2. The question was never "if" there would be too many Pokémon to put in one game, but "when." It was always "when." And I don't know why I was initially surprised that the Internet was upset about the fact that the day had come.

3. The people who say "just recycle the 3DS game assets!" are kidding themselves.

4. It's a friggin' video game. Nobody's going to die.

5. Video games are an industry.

6. You can be unhappy that your favorites aren't getting in or whatever but this is just another weekly reminder that the gaming community seriously needs to go out and play in the sunshine for a while.

tl;dr the whole thing is stupid and I can't wait for Ubisoft to announce a new game or something so the hate mob leaves my Twitter feed.

I had to mute "Bringbacknationaldex" on my timeline. Every tweet I see Pokemon post, I click on it and it is all I see. I COULDN'T ENJOY THEN POSTING THE DEX ENTRY ABOUT DRAGONITE FOR THAT! I understand the frustration but it has just got too far. I wanna be able to be hype about the game without someone bombarding me with it.

 

[HungryPiplup]

Pretty sure I won't be changing anybody's minds now matter how big a wall of text I write, so

1. Content isn't created for free. Sure, TCPI has more money than god and probably could just Throw Money At the Problem if they wanted to. But they also don't actually want to just flush all that money down the toilet. I'm sure swsh are already going to be retailing at $60, does anyone want to pay even more than $60 for a Pokémon game?

By the way, Sun / Moon sold in the ballpark of 16 million units. I'd be hard pressed to believe that everyone who is mad enough to boycott Pokémon for life over this would even come close to 1% of that. The angriest voices are always way in the minority, always.

2. The question was never "if" there would be too many Pokémon to put in one game, but "when." It was always "when." And I don't know why I was initially surprised that the Internet was upset about the fact that the day had come.

3. The people who say "just recycle the 3DS game assets!" are kidding themselves.

4. It's a friggin' video game. Nobody's going to die.

5. Video games are an industry.

6. You can be unhappy that your favorites aren't getting in or whatever but this is just another weekly reminder that the gaming community seriously needs to go out and play in the sunshine for a while.

tl;dr the whole thing is stupid and I can't wait for Ubisoft to announce a new game or something so the hate mob leaves my Twitter feed.

I had to mute "Bringbacknationaldex" on my timeline. Every tweet I see Pokemon post, I click on it and it is all I see. I COULDN'T ENJOY THEN POSTING THE DEX ENTRY ABOUT DRAGONITE FOR THAT! I understand the frustration but it has just got too far. I wanna be able to be hype about the game without someone bombarding me with it.

Yeah I got tired of this too. Even if my favorite Pokémon is not in the game I don’t think it would stop me from buying the game as long as it is good. There are tons of other things to look for in s Pokémon game other than using all Pokémon in existence. Also it’s not like you can use a Pokémon in battles just because you like it. It also needs to be good in the meta and who knows? Your old favorite who could not be strong enough to compete might become awesome with the mix of new Pokémon and the excluding of its past threats.

 

[Kyogre386]

4. It's a friggin' video game. Nobody's going to die.

5. Video games are an industry.

6. You can be unhappy that your favorites aren't getting in or whatever but this is just another weekly reminder that the gaming community seriously needs to go out and play in the sunshine for a while.

tl;dr the whole thing is stupid and I can't wait for Ubisoft to announce a new game or something so the hate mob leaves my Twitter feed.

I really hate the argument that "it's not the worst thing ever, so shut up" (ie fallacy of relative privation). Part of discussion in any fandom is saying what we like and dislike. If there's something a lot of people dislike, and they want to share that and explain their reasons why, I don't see why they shouldn't just because it's a game and not life and death. By that logic, we shouldn't be talking about any entertainment at all because it's not important. I think we can all agree that is absurd.

 

[HungryPiplup]

4. It's a friggin' video game. Nobody's going to die.

5. Video games are an industry.

6. You can be unhappy that your favorites aren't getting in or whatever but this is just another weekly reminder that the gaming community seriously needs to go out and play in the sunshine for a while.

tl;dr the whole thing is stupid and I can't wait for Ubisoft to announce a new game or something so the hate mob leaves my Twitter feed.

I really hate the argument that "it's not the worst thing ever, so shut up" (ie fallacy of relative privation). Part of discussion in any fandom is saying what we like and dislike. If there's something a lot of people dislike, and they want to share that and explain their reasons why, I don't see why they shouldn't just because it's a game and not life and death. By that logic, we shouldn't be talking about any entertainment at all because it's not important. I think we can all agree that is absurd.

I agree that people should not dismiss it as stupid. It’s a valid concern that some people (you) have and others (me) don’t .
But yeah, it’s not stupid.

 

[Dragonite]

I really hate the argument that "it's not the worst thing ever, so shut up" (ie fallacy of relative privation). Part of discussion in any fandom is saying what we like and dislike. If there's something a lot of people dislike, and they want to share that and explain their reasons why, I don't see why they shouldn't just because it's a game and not life and death. By that logic, we shouldn't be talking about any entertainment at all because it's not important. I think we can all agree that is absurd.

I agree that people should not dismiss it as stupid. It’s a valid concern that some people (you) have and others (me) don’t .
But yeah, it’s not stupid.

Like I said, I get why people are unhappy. But it's also gone utterly out of proportion, and there is no reason whatsoever for the controversy to be as ugly as it has, or for it to have gone on for as long as it has, and it hasn't really helped my opinion of the internet as a whole.

 

[HungryPiplup]

I really hate the argument that "it's not the worst thing ever, so shut up" (ie fallacy of relative privation). Part of discussion in any fandom is saying what we like and dislike. If there's something a lot of people dislike, and they want to share that and explain their reasons why, I don't see why they shouldn't just because it's a game and not life and death. By that logic, we shouldn't be talking about any entertainment at all because it's not important. I think we can all agree that is absurd.

I agree that people should not dismiss it as stupid. It’s a valid concern that some people (you) have and others (me) don’t .
But yeah, it’s not stupid.

Like I said, I get why people are unhappy. But it's also gone utterly out of proportion, and there is no reason whatsoever for the controversy to be as ugly as it has, or for it to have gone on for as long as it has, and it hasn't really helped my opinion of the internet as a whole.

Ugly? THAT little protest? I actually think it’s cute. Maybe annoyance. Not ugly though. It’s not like people are outside of the company’s building... right?

 

[Grunt Beavie]

I really hate the argument that "it's not the worst thing ever, so shut up" (ie fallacy of relative privation). Part of discussion in any fandom is saying what we like and dislike. If there's something a lot of people dislike, and they want to share that and explain their reasons why, I don't see why they shouldn't just because it's a game and not life and death. By that logic, we shouldn't be talking about any entertainment at all because it's not important. I think we can all agree that is absurd.

I agree that people should not dismiss it as stupid. It’s a valid concern that some people (you) have and others (me) don’t .
But yeah, it’s not stupid.

Like I said, I get why people are unhappy. But it's also gone utterly out of proportion, and there is no reason whatsoever for the controversy to be as ugly as it has, or for it to have gone on for as long as it has, and it hasn't really helped my opinion of the internet as a whole.

Ugly? THAT little protest? I actually think it’s cute. Maybe annoyance. Not ugly though. It’s not like people are outside of the company’s building... right?

But someone also made a fake twitter account pretending to be an ex-game freak employee to make false claims of abuse against the staff, AKA Defimation.

 

[HungryPiplup]

But someone also made a fake twitter account pretending to be an ex-game freak employee to make false claims of abuse against the staff, AKA Defimation

Huh.. that I did not know.

 

[colours]

at first I was massively disappointed... still am pretty disappointed, actually. but then I reflected on exactly why I feel like, as much as I liked SM/USUM, that a lot of the regional Pokemon seemed forgettable to me. because I didn't spend a whole lot of time with them, I wasn't able to properly develop any favourites from Alola bar like... Tapu Lele and the Rowlet line and that's it.

I'm moreso bummed out that I'm unable to transfer my shinies and rare Pokemon over, assuming those shinies/rare Pokemon won't be able to make it in (depending on who's in the dex and who isn't, I suppose). It's likely that my mythicals won't, which would be a bummer, but completely understandable.

Really though, it is what it is. As long as Game Freak introduces more new Pokemon to make up for the "loss" of the older ones, I suppose.

 

[Silver]

I’ve had my opinion on this subject for a while now, but I wanted to wait until the dust settled to actually post it here. My thoughts basically sum up to: shrug.

I’m not gonna say that this is a good change, but it’s not a change that personally effects me. I’m not a collector at heart, much less a completionist, so the idea of being unable to store close to a thousand mons has little impact. Hell, I haven’t even brought over my mons from Gen VI to VII, and I haven’t renewed my subscription to Pokémon back for... uhhhh, several years? I also find “Gotta catch them all” to be pretty dated at this point, only sticking around as a moniker due to how iconic it was to 90s kids. Even if some of my personal favorites don’t make it in, I still find it more fun to experiment with the newbies rather than the vets that I might have already used millions of times before.

I get why people are upset, as some people can get really attached to some of the Pokémon out there as well use certain types of teams for competitive purposes. It just frustrates me when people completely disregard an unreleased game without giving it a chance. There have been plenty of games with controversial prereleases that have been well received, even critically acclaimed. So yeah, my sermon is over.

 

[Gamoholic]

I too am disappointed by the change. No longer can we "Catch 'em all". Now it's more like "Gotta catch, like, half of them".

I understand that the change was inevitable Eventually they really were going to run out of space/time/etc. Game Freak did what they had to, perhaps sooner to get it out of the way. Moving consoles seems like a good time to make a major change like this. I think it's also a good opportunity for Nintendo to put some of the older games on the e-Shop so we can still "play with our favorites" - it's really enhanced the replayability of the old titles. I for one have been hanging out for downloadable copies of the GBA versions.

I don't play competitively but i do like challenge runs, I bought both Sw & Sh so i could do a run on one (not sure what challenge yet but we'll see). This choice has severely limited options on challenge runs so it'll be interesting to see what else people do. The thing that grinda my gears the most was the always on EXP Share. Sure, make it a game feature but for the love of Arceus, let those more experienced turn it off. A switch in options, even as an update, wouldn't be hard to do.

 

[DriftyAlison0]

To me its not a big deal since I do not catch them all. Only did it once in Blue. So it does not bother me not to have them all.